From: Joe Jared Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: SPEWS founders to lose assets in court action Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:32:21 -0700 Organization: OsiruSoft Research & Engineering Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3CB76075.AEB84529@osirusoft.com> References: <4f9d3d24.0204120532.93daf0b@posting.google.com> Reply-To: joejared@relays.osirusoft.com NNTP-Posting-Host: relays.osirusoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ns.osirusoft.com 1018650753 13945 216.102.236.44 (12 Apr 2002 22:32:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.osirusoft.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Apr 2002 22:32:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-31 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Tero Paananen wrote: > > want_a_new_chance@yahoo.com (Give Us An Out) wrote in message news:... > > To SPEWS: > > > > Listen up idiots.... > > > > John Oliver, Joe Jared, Shiksaa (about to be exposed publicly), and > > others not yet named. > > That's #4. > > Keep the lists coming. > > Anybody want to start a betting pool on who's going to be > on the next list of SPEWS operators? > > I give 1:1 for Joe Jared and John Oliver. > I am not, nor I have been, SPEWS. However, relays.osirusoft.com appears to be spews.org, but only from spews listed addresses. As for name services, yes, I willingly provide nameserver resolution for spews.org, which will take effect shortly. As a secondary response, all name servers of spews.org are or will be masters for the zone and shortly, there will be other avenues to reach spews that are transparent to dns resolution. Rumor has it that http://spews.osirusoft.com is up and running and that the other dns resolution issues will be permenently fixed for spews.org shortly. __________________________________________________________________________ From: Bill Cole Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: 64.50.134.32 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:27:40 -0500 Organization: scconsult.com is not organized Message-ID: References: User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 52 In article , black_sheep@cartooney.org (Rob Mitchell) wrote: > In article , Bill Cole > wrote: > > > In article , > > jdvorak@nas-corp.com (John Dvorak) wrote: > > > > > By comparison, check Earthlink and other DSL providers. Why aren't > > > all of Earthlink's netblocks blocked by SPEWS? > > > > Because SPEWS is careful to keep the collateral damage of thier list low > > enough to remain in use by a few imprudent large providers. > > > > They also could be a bit concerned that the residual Scientology > > influence at Earthlink might make them willing to sue over such a > > listing. Lawsuits over dnsbl listings are classically Hubbardian in > > character (their point being the harrassment of the lawsuit itself, not > > winning the lawsuit) so it makes sense to avoid offending Sky Dayton... > > I'm curious as to who, exactly, they'd sue. ;-) If I were sitting on a big pile of cash and wanted to harrass SPEWS for listing an address I owned, I'd start by suing Joe Jared, the primary publisher of the SPEWS data. I'd get discovery subpoenas aimed at the operators of any of the following machines which appear to be assisting SPEWS: spews.org. 172800 IN NS ns.connectnet.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS dns2.ultradesign.net. spews.org. 172800 IN NS news.cts.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS ns1.easydns.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS ns2.easydns.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS remote1.easydns.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS remote2.easydns.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS ns.cts.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS ns.osirusoft.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS ns1.yourdns-hosts.com. spews.org. 172800 IN NS relays.osirusoft.com. If I wanted to sue SPEWS into irrelevance, I wouldn't much care about who actually controls the list (and it's pretty clear from the style of the evidence pages that this is one person writing them all) I'd make it unpleasant for the people who provide discernable support to SPEWS (notably ConnectNet, Joe Jared, and SBC) to keep doing so. I'd look for Scientology lawyers, since they have experience in this sort of thing. -- Bill Cole I don't speak for my current employer, much less my former ones. That disclaimer will not change the minds of a few lunatics, of course... __________________________________________________________________________ The data contained in Dotster, Inc.'s WHOIS database, while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is", with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining information about domain name registration records. Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written permission of Dotster, Inc. 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Registrant: chip level domains Visit Lake Biakal! :: http://baikal.irkutsk.org po box 61, Baikalsk-2 Irkutsk region, -- 665914 RU Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com) Domain Name: SPEWS.ORG Created on: 07-JUL-01 Expires on: 07-JUL-02 Last Updated on: 23-AUG-01 Administrative Contact: Irkutsk's, Proud Flag chip@sendmail.ru http://www.icc.ru/fed/pic/logo.gif Sergei ''chip'' Didorenko po box 61, Baikalsk-2 Irkutsk region, -- 665914 RU (7-3952) 348-335 (7-3952) 348-335 Technical Contact: Use Sendmail, Version 8.11.5 chip@sendmail.ru http://www.sendmail.org Sergei ''chip'' Didorenko po box 61, Baikalsk-2 Irkutsk region, -- 665914 RU (7-3952) 348-335 (7-3952) 348-335 Domain servers in listed order: NS.CONNECTNET.COM NS.OSIRUSOFT.COM RELAYS.OSIRUSOFT.COM NS.CTS.COM NEWS.CTS.COM NS1.YOURDNS-HOSTS.COM REMOTE1.EASYDNS.COM REMOTE2.EASYDNS.COM NS.GST-GROUP.CO.UK DNS2.ULTRADESIGN.NET DNS3.ULTRADESIGN.NET NS1.EASYDNS.COM NS2.EASYDNS.COM Register a domain name at www.dotster.com End of Whois Information __________________________________________________________________________ domain: spews.org status: production organization: Visit Lake Biakal! owner: chip level domains email: chip@sendmail.ru address: po box 61, Baikalsk-2 city: Irkutsk region, -- 665914 postal-code: 665914 country: RU admin-c: chip@sendmail.ru#3 tech-c: chip@sendmail.ru#3 billing-c: chip@sendmail.ru#3 nserver: ns2.osirusoft.com nserver: ns4.osirusoft.com nserver: ns0.sorbs.net registrar: JORE-1 created: 2001-07-07 15:50:12 UTC caserv modified: 2003-08-12 00:41:48 UTC JORE-1 expires: 2008-07-07 19:50:12 UTC source: joker.com db-updated: 2003-09-01 23:06:30 UTC