Path: sunny.netside.net!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!nwnews.wa.com!news-chi-2.sprintlink.net!news-central.sprintlink.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news-in-central.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.102.236.42!ns.osirusoft.com!not-for-mail From: Joe Jared Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: MAPS bullshit Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:57:13 -0700 Organization: OsiruSoft Lines: 37 Message-ID: <3B50CE49.1645AE6A@osirusoft.com> Reply-To: joejared@relays.osirusoft.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.0.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ns.osirusoft.com 995155464 14716 192.168.0.5 (15 Jul 2001 00:04:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.osirusoft.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jul 2001 00:04:24 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Apparently Maps has laid claim to the term rbl (Relay Blackhole List), and has issued a letter to my site stating that they don't approve of me using rbl. Unfortunately, My definition of rbl is Relay Block List, which although similar is uniquely different. Anyone care to make a prognossis of the future between MAPS (which spelled backwards is still SPAM) and my site? As of tomorrow, a full scan of their dialog with my site will be publicly disclosed. For future reference, and although there will be a 'symbolic' link to http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rblcheck.cgi, it will actually be linked to http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi, of which MAPS cannot claim a trademark to. To be honest with everyone, it is my belief that MAPS wants to contol the flow of spam, and charge fees for it. At this point, I can't help but think that we're enemies now. Rather than wait for the July 31 cutoff, I will be removing all references to mail-abuse.org from my site on or before Monday, July 16, 2001. Maps attorney is more than welcome to consult with my legal counsel as appropriate. Contact with Kathy Clinkenbeard, however is inappropriate. Additionally, as I might point out, relays.osirusoft.com is not a company and is not directly affilliated with *any* company. To mail-abuse personel. Please do not contact me further. The only real purpose for your site, is to attempt to shut my site down, and you damned well know it. I'm prepared to defend myself, accordingly. I will not be a part in the commercialization of spam, as your site is attempting. I will however comply and not use RBL in the list in any way shape or form, related to my own relay block list, not to be confused with your site's RELAY BLACK LIST. -- http://relays.osirusoft.com http://www.osirusoft.com